Ground Chicken Vs Ground Beef Vs Ground Turkey Bodybuilding

06-27-2007, 01:48 AM

Okay so here's the deal:

I love love love chicken however eating it twice a day 7 days a week sometimes get's quite boring. So I'm wondering if I sometimes can subsitute it with lean ground beef (3-5% fat)? Would it be just as good for me or am I better off sticking with the chicken.

06-27-2007, 02:08 AM

lean beef is great, just adjust macro totals accordingly as the caloric differences per weight vary significantly.

eg: 4 oz boneless skinless chicken breast=120 cals
4 0z 96/4 GB=150 cals

06-27-2007, 03:00 AM

Including some lean ground beef in ur diet would be a good move toward diversifying ur protein sources & opens up a lot more menu options than u would have w/ just chicken.

Just account 4 it in ur macros like premed_lifter said.

06-27-2007, 04:44 AM

Also egg whites, turkey breast are also options , all types of fish

06-27-2007, 05:22 AM

To much red meat can be bad for you. I dont think hardly any protein source can beat a chicken breast, compared to being the healthiest that you can eat everyday without doctors saying it will kill you. :s

I wouldnt repalce it, add some spices to your chicken, A1 sauce, BBQ sauce, hot sauce. Theirs many ways you can make chicken not boring. just take 5 extra minutes and throw something in with it.

06-27-2007, 06:35 AM

I wouldn't read frankdaddy's post.

Especially for bodybuilders, red meat is great. If it's lean and fits in your macros go for it

06-27-2007, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Miss-Sophie View Post

Okay so here's the deal:

I love love love chicken however eating it twice a day 7 days a week sometimes get's quite boring. So I'm wondering if I sometimes can subsitute it with lean ground beef (3-5% fat)? Would it be just as good for me or am I better off sticking with the chicken.

I don't see anything wrong with it myself, although a lot of people seem to avoid red meat. If I tried to eat chicken twice a day every day I would never stay on a clean diet, so I like to vary my main protein sources a lot from various meats, poultry, and fish.

06-27-2007, 07:42 AM

I LOVE adding a little lean ground beef to my diet once in awhile! Sometimes a good ol' lean burger is just what I need when my diet starts to get boring. I've never noticed any negative health effects from eating red med (not that I eat a ton of it). Actually, adding in red meat helped me to lean down a little bit more by diversifying my diet

I'm at a point now where I do not look forward to eating chicken. Lately, I've been eating more lean red meats and lots of seafood! All very good protein sources.

06-27-2007, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by sborton84 View Post

I LOVE adding a little lean ground beef to my diet once in awhile! Sometimes a good ol' lean burger is just what I need when my diet starts to get boring. I've never noticed any negative health effects from eating red med (not that I eat a ton of it). Actually, adding in red meat helped me to lean down a little bit more by diversifying my diet I'm at a point now where I do not look forward to eating chicken. Lately, I've been eating more lean red meats and lots of seafood! All very good protein sources.

I agree lean red meats and seafood are tremendous ways to mix it up!!

Lean Ground Turkey is also a great way to change it! Making some Turkey patties or Turkey Meatballs can almost make it seem like you are cheating when you aren't!!

Well to me anyways .. I love meatballs!! hahah

06-27-2007, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Sibrek View Post

I wouldn't read frankdaddy's post.

Especially for bodybuilders, red meat is great. If it's lean and fits in your macros go for it

shut the **** up, I eat 12 ounces a day, im not saying dont eat it, but theirs a thing called overdoing it.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/co...lon_Cancer.asp

To much red meat for ANYONE can be bad..being a "bodybuilder" doesnt change what can hurt you or not

Eating large amounts of red or processed meat over a long period of time can indeed raise colorectal cancer risk

06-27-2007, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Miss-Sophie View Post

Okay so here's the deal:

I love love love chicken however eating it twice a day 7 days a week sometimes get's quite boring. So I'm wondering if I sometimes can subsitute it with lean ground beef (3-5% fat)? Would it be just as good for me or am I better off sticking with the chicken.

damn, have you really ever seen 97/3 lean ground beef?

06-27-2007, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by jman14 View Post

damn, have you really ever seen 97/3 lean ground beef?

Whole Foods

06-27-2007, 09:11 AM

Thanks for your replies!

I think I'll add some once in a while. I think in the long run diversifying my diet will make it easier for me to keep it on track.
Right now I mostly get my protein from tuna, chicken, egg whites and protein powder. And I love seafood so I often have salmon or another kind of fish for dinner once a week.

06-27-2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post

shut the **** up, I eat 12 ounces a day, im not saying dont eat it, but theirs a thing called overdoing it.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/co...lon_Cancer.asp

To much red meat for ANYONE can be bad..being a "bodybuilder" doesnt change what can hurt you or not

Eating large amounts of red or processed meat over a long period of time can indeed raise colorectal cancer risk

LOL tough guy...

cancer.org isn't a fair source.

i could link you to 100 sites that say aliens have landed or that sept. 11th was as hoax...does that make them reputable?

link me to a scholarly journal saying red meat is bad, please.

06-27-2007, 09:38 AM

I eat chicken and beef each once a day...I go through two whole chickens from HEB and about 3-4 pounds of beef each week.

06-27-2007, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sibrek View Post

LOL tough guy...

cancer.org isn't a fair source.

i could link you to 100 sites that say aliens have landed or that sept. 11th was as hoax...does that make them reputable?

link me to a scholarly journal saying red meat is bad, please.

Im not even saying its bad...but im just saying it could cause things. I know I love it. I eat my 12-13 ounces a day in lean ground beef and steak.

I could prolly find some scholar who wrote something about it, but its really pointless, since no need for us to argue over something dumb, cause both stated good points. So sorry for the language bro lol

PS....the aliens caused everything. I could find pics to prove for ya haha joking

06-27-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post

Im not even saying its bad...but im just saying it could cause things. I know I love it. I eat my 12-13 ounces a day in lean ground beef and steak.

I could prolly find some scholar who wrote something about it, but its really pointless, since no need for us to argue over something dumb, cause both stated good points. So sorry for the language bro lol

PS....the aliens caused everything. I could find pics to prove for ya haha joking

haha it's all good...12-13 oz is a lot of beef. the way you were talking it sounded like you reserved steak as a once a week type thing.

i eat a lot less red meat than that but its simply a cost/time issue

06-27-2007, 01:45 PM

Hell no...I eat 7 meals a day, man cannot live on chicken breast alone haha

06-27-2007, 04:03 PM

too much of anything is never good, i think it would be wise to get a even amount of different protein sources.

06-27-2007, 04:37 PM

Yea I eat the same thing everyday pretty much as in protein goes. 2 or 3, 6 oz chicken breasts, 4-5oz steak, 6oz porkchops, 9-10 eggs, and 8oz lean ground beef. Maybe a protein shake, but I rely more on my poultry and meat products for more reliable protein.

06-27-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Sibrek View Post

LOL tough guy...

cancer.org isn't a fair source.

i could link you to 100 sites that say aliens have landed or that sept. 11th was as hoax...does that make them reputable?

link me to a scholarly journal saying red meat is bad, please.

What are you crazy? Do think cancer.org is some kind of radical fringe group? It is THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, for pete's sake.

Here are some abstracts from just the first couple pages of a pubmed search. There are hundreds of prospective and retrospective epidemiological and even interventional studies showing the risk. This is a fairly well established association. Why don't you do a little learning before you open your mouth next time.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

R. Sinha and N. Rothman, Role of well-done, grilled red meat, heterocyclic amines (HCAs) in the etiology of human cancer. Cancer Lett. 143 (1999), pp. 189?194

06-27-2007, 09:16 PM

But just as easily, we can find studies that disagree

Studies Dispel Myth Of Cancer-causing Red Meat
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=73040

Here are also a couple good articles on how some of these meat causes cancer studies come about:

Special science exclusive: Have your steak and enjoy it too!
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/...have-your.html

No Beef Behind Red-Meat Cancer Scare
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144326,00.html

06-27-2007, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Radgar View Post

I have seen the recent japanese study. No it doesn't see what we have seen in many other studies, but 1. this was a japanese population 2. one study does not cancel out numerous other ones showing the correlation.

Anyhow, you are smart to doubt, and your second link is very telling about how data can be manipulated to prove various points. However, that was talking about red meat and breast cancer, a much more tenuous link than red meat and colon cancer.

The foxnews opinion piece was very interesting however. A lot of that goes on in the research world. Investigator bias is difficult to eliminate, even in some seemingly well designed and controlled studies. Those numbers do seem massaged a bit, but again this correlation (I repeat, correlation) has been seen in various epidemiological studies.

I am FAR from anti-meat. I love beef and would eat it every day if I could afford it. The apparent risk from eating red meat is not that dramatic, much less risky than say, driving a car, which I do everyday. I don't get too hung up all the scare reports out there, I was just making a point to the previous poster who suggested that the ACS was some kind of quack group.

That is all.

06-27-2007, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post

shut the **** up, I eat 12 ounces a day, im not saying dont eat it, but theirs a thing called overdoing it.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/co...lon_Cancer.asp

To much red meat for ANYONE can be bad..being a "bodybuilder" doesnt change what can hurt you or not

Eating large amounts of red or processed meat over a long period of time can indeed raise colorectal cancer risk

he asked to substitute it sometimes grow up little boy

06-27-2007, 11:23 PM

Diversifying your diet will reap long term benefits. Even the most dedicated cannot maintain a strict chicken breast diet forever. Besides, ground beef is protein (even if you get 85/15 or 90/10). The extra fat won't kill you.

06-28-2007, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by jordaro2002 View Post

Diversifying your diet will reap long term benefits. Even the most dedicated cannot maintain a strict chicken breast diet forever. Besides, ground beef is protein (even if you get 85/15 or 90/10). The extra fat won't kill you.

ha I can eat chicken breats 3 times a day forever..I love it, and I shall eat it 3 times a day til I die =)

06-28-2007, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by BrandonLee View Post

he asked to substitute it sometimes grow up little boy

Lol you do know I am more muscular than you right, and more defined, and stronger and been lifting a lot less longer than you, you had no right joining in our discussions, especially AFTER we had ended it, so you get outta here lil man, cause its really none of yo business skinny boi.

06-28-2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post

Lol you do know I am more muscular than you right, and more defined, and stronger and been lifting a lot less longer than you, you had no right joining in our discussions, especially AFTER we had ended it, so you get outta here lil man, cause its really none of yo business skinny boi.

Relax, and you can't compare physiques based only on diet and training. Genetics do play a role, and also the fact that some people don't like chicken as much as you do.

06-28-2007, 12:05 PM

I don't look forward to chicken either, but if you don't like it...you are definately making it wrong.

Learn about brining your chicken breast. Trust me, it will change the way you view chicken.

To the OP.

Go for it. Red meat is great, and should be eaten twice a week at least...maybe even everyday. I mean...if you have 6 meals to fill like I do...I can see myself eating some form of beef just about everyday and still getting plenty of variety.

06-28-2007, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post

Yea I eat the same thing everyday pretty much as in protein goes. 2 or 3, 6 oz chicken breasts, 4-5oz steak, 6oz porkchops, 9-10 eggs, and 8oz lean ground beef. Maybe a protein shake, but I rely more on my poultry and meat products for more reliable protein.

hell yeah, nothing like real food and tons of meat to put on slabs of mass. i see so many people with stuff like egg whites, low fat cottage cheese, and multiple protein shakes in there diets. those are fine for cutting, but if you wanna beef it up you gotta eat man food!

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